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Apes get Religion


Controversial research published in New Scientist, demonstrating that apes suffer self-doubt, has given scientists an important clue into how religion may have originated in our early hominid ancestors.

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In the research, apes first watched a human researcher place food in one of two covered plastic pipes. After a delay, giving the apes time to forget which pipe the food was in, they were allowed to check the pipes before opening one and claiming the food reward. The longer the delay the more often the pipes were checked before a decision was made.

“This behaviour clearly shows they are expressing self-doubt, something we thought was a purely human trait.” remarked Joseph Call of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig where the research was carried out.

To test the hypothesis in more detail, the animals were taught a rudimentary sign language so they could communicate with researchers. The results astounded everybody by clearly showing that apes have developed a rudimentary and primitive religion.

The clearest link, not surprisingly, was found amongst bonobos, the closest evolutionary relatives of humans. After one particularly long delay a young bonobo called Baa-baa showed particularly strong signs of self-doubt by signing, “Why I here? What it all mean?”

At that point an older Bonobo known as Papa, who had until then been sitting on his own wearing a funny hat, came over. He made signs meaning, “Man feeder too clever. We not know what he want.” before mounting Baa-baa in a simulated sex act, a typical dominance display in this species.

Following this activity, baa-baa retreated into a corner where he sat playing with his favourite toy, a string of beans, whilst continuously signing “Guilt, guilt, guilt”.

Papa, unmoved by Baa-baa’s obvious distress, signed, “What man feeder want. I not responsible. You not tell.” He then set about building a large construction out of cardboard boxes before demanding that the other bonobos bring him bananas.

“Other species of ape have shown less obvious displays of ‘religious’ behaviour.” said Mr Call. “One particularly interesting example was a chimpanzee named Malik. When he opened the pipe to get hisreward he signed ‘Ugh! Bacon. Kill infidels.’ then went on a violent rampage and mercilessly attacked other chimpanzees who didn’t share his aversion to pig products.”

The much more docile Orang-utans were the most disappointing subjects according to researchers. “They simply sat cross-legged in their cages, constantly repeating, ‘Ohmmm, Ohmmmm.’ for hours on end.”

According to Mr Call, the strangest bahaviour was observed in gorillas. “They love to dress up in a type of ‘underwear’ they have fashioned from old pieces of material and which seems to have an almost ‘magical’ fascination for them. Particularly irritating is their habit of getting up early on a Sunday morning and knocking on the glass of their enclosure until they get our attention. I really hate getting dragged out of bed at the weekend.”

“We’re not quite sure where this research will end but so far the results have been unbelievable. We can’t wait to see what happens next.”

Are the Gods the Dreams of Men


“It is said that men may not be the dreams of the Gods, but rather that the Gods are the dreams of men.” 
– Carl Sagan

What follows illustrates the above extremely well 

“Satan is a tool of God’s love in the sense that he forces us to see God’s loving patience.”
[Pat Robertson, Answers to 200 of Life’s most Probing Questions, Bantom Books, 1984]


“If you go all the way back to the days just following creation, men lived nine hundred years or more.”
[Pat Robertson, Answers to 200 of Life’s most Probing Questions, Bantom Books, 1984]


“There will never be world peace until God’s house and God’s people are given their rightful place of leadership at the top of the world. How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy moneychangers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?”
[Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 227, Word Publishing, 1991]


“Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”
[Pat Robertson]

“Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals–the two things seem to go together.”
[Pat Robertson, “The 700 Club,” 1/21/93, ADL report on Religious Right, page 131]

“The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that’s what’s been happening.”
[Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, December 30, 1981]

“God is going to judge the entertainment industry.”
[Rev. Pat Robertson, Re: the fire that devastated Universal Studios. Note: the good Rev. was strangely silent
when fire destroyed his radio station, WNTR]

Rev. Jerry Falwell

“AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh’s chariotters”.

“The idea that religion and politics don’t mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country.”
Sermon, July 4, 1976 

“The ACLU’s got to take a lot of blame for this.”
[Rev. Jerry Falwell, on attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev. Pat Robertson again agreed, quoted from AANEWS #958 by American Atheists (September 14, 2001)]


“The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews.”

 

“No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.”
[George H.W. Bush, President of the United States in response to a reporters question]

 

“It is a just retribution for improper sexual misconduct”
[Mother Teresa, on AIDS]

“Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it. … Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory.”
[Rev. Jimmy Swaggart]

“To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin.”
[Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615, during the trial of Galileo]

 


“I can’t understand how all this can have happened, it’s enough to make one lose one’s faith in God!”
[Eva Braun during the last days with Hitler]

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..”
[Hitler (Mein Kampf, Chapter 2)] link, link

 

 

 

I talk to my only friend Jesus our “LORD”! I know “JESUS” understands my terrible desires and ect. I have tords little boys! And the main reason I murdered them little “BOYS”, is because our society is so “AGAINST” the fact of “CHILDREN-DOING-SEX” together or with anybody! I believe children should be “ABLE” to do sex! And I can “ARGUE” that all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court! “SEX” is a great “GIFT” that Jesus gave us all!!!!
[Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers- misspellings, his]

“My children, Michael and Alex, are with our Heavenly Father now, and I know that they will never be hurt again. As a mom, that means more than words could ever say. . . My children deserve to have the best, and now they will. . . I have put my total faith in God, and he will take care of me.”
[Susan Smith, who drowned her two children, in her confession letter, Nov. 1994]

 

PZ Myers – The Inescapable Conflict Between Science and Religion – YouTube


The popular image of the “warfare between science and religion” is perpetuated by the media, for whom a controversy is more dramatic than the more subtle and discriminating positions between the extremes of scientific materialism and biblical literalism.
There are two distinct groups of people asserting incompatibility between science and religion: Those privileging science and those privileging religion.
Competing efforts to wield power – the struggles for influence, status, and the right to define and perform authoritative societal roles – is central to the rhetoric of conflict between science and religion.

via PZ Myers – The Inescapable Conflict Between Science and Religion – YouTube.

via PZ Myers – The Inescapable Conflict Between Science and Religion – YouTube.

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